bom dia pessoal, sou formando em sistemas de informaçao, estou trabalhando em pequenos projetos java para desktop usando sql server 2000, tenho um grande projeto para iniciar e estou fazendo curso de ingles…
queria saber se estou no caminho certo para ser um bom programador java, se nao estou o que esta faltando, o que me recomendam fazer…lembrando que primeiro pretendo trabalhar com desktops…
obrigado
Caminho do sucesso:
:arrow: Experiência + Inglês Fluente + QI + Certificações (dispensável)…
E aí é só correr pro abraço… :mrgreen:
Nao tem receita de bolo. So trabalhar direto e se manter atualizado.
O que é necessário para ser um bom programador java é:
:arrow: Conhecer com profundidade a linguagem java e alguns detalhes de funcionamento da JVM.
:arrow: Entender orientação a objetos bem e usá-la naturalmente na prática.
:arrow: Ter boa lógica de programação.
:arrow: Conhecer profundamente as APIs (pelo menos do Java SE) e saber usá-las com naturalidade e corretamente.
:arrow: Ser capaz de escrever código legível, manutenível, bem estruturado e correto.
:arrow: Conhecer as vantagens do java e saber explorá-las.
:arrow: Conhecer as fraquezas do java e saber trabalhá-las.
:arrow: Manter-se atualizado em tudo isso.
Agora, como você vai conseguir alcançar esses requisitos em sua total plenitude é outra história…
Se você carece de algum destes requisitos, então é esse requisito que você tem que procurar melhorar.
tb acredito que nao tem receita de bolo… porem há nomeações… conforme o victorwss citou… e concordo com ele tb!!
QI = quem indica?
O inglês é fundamental em qualquer área e na de T.I nem se fala ne?
rs!! flw!!
Tem que ter curiosidade.
Tem que questionar aquilo que lhe é dito como “ato de fé”, sempre.
Tem que saber quem sabe (isso significa amigos, chefes, blogueiros, autores tarimbados de livros de informática… e não significa necessariamente relacionamento cara-a-cara) e extrair conhecimento deles.
O resto é conseqüência.
Eu tive um professor que dizia que o importante é sempre se achar burro. Daí você vai pra frente…
E é essa a idéia:
Depois de fazer um código você deve pensar: “Bah! Ficou bom! E o que eu posso fazer para melhorar??”. E assim você evolui.
o fernandoeick falou sobre experiencia, sera que posso contar como experiencia esses projetos feitos em casa?
Não sei… Porque projetos feitos em casa são mais para estudo em si… Pelo menos os meus eram. Eu nunca pensei em fazer algo como numa empresa, pelo menos eles sempre foram totalmente diferentes destes em que trabalham…
Por exemplo, experiência com usuários ( esses ignorantes ) você não tem nenhuma só trabalhando em casa, porque faz trabalho para si, e não para outros… Sei lá… é oque eu acho
Bem… Só pra complementar a lista, dá uma olhada em http://www.javapassion.com/
Você vai ter uma boa idéia de quais tecnologias o mercado está pedindo (não as NOVAS tendências, mas as tendências ATUAIS).
Exemplo do curso de Java EE:
Introduction
* Introduction of this course - (Nov. 19th, 2007: Week #1)
* Java EE Overview (2 hours lecture) - (Nov. 19th, 2007: Week #1)
Web Core Technologies: Servlet and JSP
* Web Application Structure (1 hour lecture + 1 hour lab) - (Nov. 26th, 2007: Week #2) (homework #1)
* Servlet Basics (2 hour lecture + 1 hour lab) - (Nov. 26th, 2007: Week #2) (homework #2)
* JSP Basics (2 hour lecture + 2 hour lab) - (Dec. 3rd, 2007: Week #3) (homework #3)
* Using NetBeans for Developing Web Applications (2 hour lab) - (Dec. 3rd, 2007: Week #3) (homework #4)
* Servlet Advanced (2 hour lecture + 2 hour lab) - (Dec. 10th, 2007: Week #4) (homework #5)
* Session Tracking (1 hour lecture + 1 hour lab) - (Dec. 10th, 2007: Week #4) (homework #6)
* Expression Language (0.5 hour lecture + 1 hour lab) - (Dec… 17th, 2007: Week #5) (homework #7)
* JSP 1.2 Custom Tags (1 hour lecture + 1 hour lab)
* JSP 2.0 Custom Tags (1 hour lecture + 2 hour lab)
* JSTL (2 hour lecture + 2 hour lab) - (Dec. 17th, 2007: Week #5) (homework #8)
* Building Bookstore sample applications
JDBC, SQL,
* SQL (1 hour lecture + 1 hour lab) - (Jan. 7th, 2008: Week #6) - there is no homework
* JDBC (1 hour lecture + 1 hour lab) - (Jan. 7th, 2008: Week #6) (homework #9)
Web-tier Security
* Security Basics (1 hour lecture)
* Web Application Security (2 hour lecture + 2 hour lab) - (Jan. 14th, 2007: Week #7) - there is no homework!
* SSL (1 hour lecture)
* Web Application Security Threats and Counter-measures (1 hour lecture + 1 hour lab)
Struts
* MVC (Model-View-Controller) framework (0.5 hour lecture) (Jan. 28th, 2008: Week #8) - there is no homework
* Struts Basics (2 hour lecture + 2 hour lab) (Jan. 28th, 2008: Week #8) (homework #10)
* Step by Step Guide for Building a Simple Struts application (1 hour lecture) - (Jan. 28th, 2008: Week #8) - no homework
* Struts Sample Applications (2 hour lab)
* Struts Tags (1 hour lecture + 1 hour lab)
* Struts Advanced (2 hour lecture + 2 hour lab) - hands-on lab not ready
* Struts Validation Framework (1 hour lecture + 1 hour lab)
* Tiles Framework (1 hour lecture + 1 hour lab) - (Feb. 11th, 2008: Week #9) (homework #11)
* Struts Testing, Debugging, Logging, and Performance (1 hour lecture + 1 hour lab)
* Struts Best Practices (1 hour lecture)
* Struts and Databases (1 hour lecture) - hands-on lab not ready
* Struts Security (0.5 hour lecture)
Struts 2
* Struts 2 Basics (2 hour lecture + 1 hour lab) - (Feb. 18th, 2008: Week #10) (homework #12)
* Struts 2 and Ajax ()
* Struts 2 and Tiles
* Struts 2 and view technologies
JavaServer Faces (JSF)
* JSF basics I
* Building “Hello World” JSF applications (0.5 hour) - (Feb. 25th, 2008: Week #11) no homework
* Step by step guideline for building “Guess a Number” JSF application (1.5 hour lecture + 1 hour lab) (Feb. 25th, 2008: Week #11) (homework #13)
* JSF basics (1 hour lecture + 1 hour lab) (Feb. 25th, 2008: Week #11) - no homework
* JSF Component Model (1 hour lecture + 1 hour lab)
* JSF tags (0.5 hour lecture + 1 hour lab)
* JSF basics II
* Managed Beans (0.5 hour lecture + 0.5 hour lab)
* Page navigation (0.5 hour lecture + 0.5 hour lab)
* Event model (0.5 hour + 0.5 hour lab)
* Life-cycle and PhaseListener (0.5 hour lecture + 0.5 hour lab)
* Immediat flag (0.5 hour lecture + 0.5 hour lab)
* Styling with CSS (0.5 hour lecture + 0.5 hour lab)
* Validation
* Validation (0.5 hour lecture + 0.5 hour lab)
* Client side validation (0.5 hour lecture + 0.2 hour lab)
* Conversion
* Converter (0.5 hour lecture + 0.5 hour lab)
* Data tables
* Data table (0.5 hour lecture + 0.5 hour lab)
* JSF and Persistence (0.5 hour lecture + 0.5 hour lab)
* Sample apps
* Walk-through of Carstore sample application (1 hour lecture + 1 hour lab)
* Walk-through of Bookstore sample application (1 hour lab)
* Building some JSF applications (1 hour lab)
* Tiles
* Tiles overview (1 hour lecture + 1 hour lab)
* Using JSF-enabled IDE
* NetBeans Visual Web Pack basics (0.5 hour lecture + 1 hour lab)
* NetBeans Visual Web Pack advanced (1 hour lab)
* Building JSF components
* Building a JSF component (1.5 hour lecture + 1.5 hour lab)
* RenderKit (1 hour lab)
* Building useful components (1 hour lab)
* Related frameworks
* Facelets (1 hour lecture + 2 hour lab)
* Shale dialog (1 hour lecture + 1 hour lab)
* Spring Webflow and JSF (0.5 hour lecture + 0.5 hour lab)
* Spring framework and JSF (0.5 hour lecture + 0.5 hour lab)
* Seam
* JSFTemplating ()
* 3rd-party JSF components
o Tomahawk components from MyFaces Apache project (1 hour lecture + 1 hour lab)
o ADF components (1 hour lecture + 1 hour lab)
o Misc components (1 hour lecture + 1 hour lab)
* Woodstocok JSF components
o Wookstock components (1 hour lecture + 1 hour lab)
o Building Woodstock components ()
o Wookstock components and Ajax ()
* JSF and Ajax
o Ajax Basics (1 hour lecture + 1 hour lab) - from Ajax programming course
o Building Ajax applications (0.5 hour lecture + 0.5 hour lab)
o DynaFaces
o Ajax4jsf
* JSF and Portal/Portlets
o JSF and Portlets (1 hour lecture)
* Testing and Debugging tools
* Testing tools
* Localization
o Localization
Other Web-tier Frameworks
* Shale (The next generation Struts/JSF) (1.5 hour lecture + 2 hour lab)
* Tapestry
* Echo2
* Wicket
* Comparing various Java Web Application frameworks
EJB 2.x
* EJB 2.x Overview
* JMS
* Session Beans
* Entity Beans
Java EE 5, EJB 3.0, Java Persistence API (JPA)
* Introduction to Java EE 5 (2 hour lecture)
* EJB 3.0
o EJB 3.0 Enterprise Beans Overview (2 hour lecture + 2 hour lab) (March 10th, 2008: Week #12) (homework #14)
* JPA
* Java Persistence API (JPA) Basics (1 hour lecture + 1 hour lab) (March 10th, 2008: Week #12) - No homework - I am waiving the homework due to the fact that NetBeans 6.0 does not have “Create JSF pages from Entities” feature - will be added again when NetBeans 6.1 is released.
* Java Persistence API (JPA) Mapping (1 hour lecture + 1 hour lab)
* Java Persistence Query Languate (JPQL) (1 hour lecture + 1 hour lab)
* Java Persistence API (JPA) Transaction (1 hour lecture + 1 hour lab)
* GlassFish
o GlassFish (1 hour lecture + 1 hour lab)
Design patterns, Best practices, Performance tuning, etc
* Java EE Design patterns
* Performance tuning
* UML
Hibernate
* Hibernate Step by Step (1 hour lecture + 1 hour lab) - (March 17th, 2008: Week #13) (homework #15)
* Hibernate Basics (2 hour lecture + 2 hour lab) - (March 17th, 2008: Week #13) (homework #16)
* Hibernate Mapping (2 hour lecture + 2 hour lab) - (March 24th, 2008: Week #14) (homework #17)
* Hibernate Query Language (2 hour lecture + 2 hour lab) - (March 24th, 2008: Week #14) (homework #18)
* Hibernate Transaction and Concurrency (work in progress)
* Hibernate Interceptors and Events (work in progress)
* Hibernate Join Fetch (0.5 hour lecture + 1 hour lab)
* Hibernate Caching (0.5 hour lecture + 0.5 hour lab)
* Hibernate with annotation (work in progress)
* Hibernate Best Practices (work in progress)
Spring framework
* Spring framework basics
* Refactoring HelloWorld application using Spring framework (1 hour lecture + 2 hour lab) - (April 7th, 2008: Week #15) (homework #19)
* Spring framework Dependency Injection Basics (1 hour lecture + 2 hour lab) - (April 7th, 2008: Week #15) (homework #20)
* Spring framework Dependency Injection Advanced (1 hour lecture + 2 hour lab)
* Spring framework and persistence
* Spring framework and Hibernate (1 hour lecture + 2 hour lab) - (April 14th, 2008: Week #16) (homework #21)
* Spring framework and JPA (1 hour lecture + 1 hour lab) - (April 14th, 2008: Week #16)
* Spring framework Web-tier technologies
* Spring MVC (2 hour lecture + 2 hour lab) - (April 28th, 2008: Week #17) (homework #24)
* Spring Web Flow (1 hour lecture + 2 hour lab) - (April 28th, 2008: Week #17 - end of the course) (homework #22)
* Spring integration with Struts - (0.5 hour lecture + 2 hour lab) - hands-on lab not ready yet
* Spring integration with JSF - (0.5 hour lecture + 2 hour lab) - lecture and hands-on lab not ready yet
* Spring AOP
* Spring AOP Basics (1 hour lecture + 1 hour lab)
* Spring and Java EE
* Spring framework and J2EE (JMS) (2 hour lecture + 2 hour lab) - hands-on lab not ready yet
* Spring framework and Web Services (1 hour lecture + 1 hour lab)
* Spring and Transaction ()
* Misc.
* Advanced Spring framework (1 hour lecture + 1 hour lab)
* Spring Sample applications - Pet Clinic (0.5 hour lecture + 0.5 hour lab)
* Acegi security with Spring framework - hands-on lab is not ready
* Spring and testing ()
Portlets and Portal
* Portlet Basics
Deployment, Provisioning, and Management
* Sun Provisioning Server
E aí, vai encarar?? srsrsrsr
Abração e boa sorte
Esforço + humildade + simplicidade.
[i]Cara basta você continuar estudando e se aprofundando no assunto porque o importante mesmo é ter vontade de aprender.
Enquanto você tiver isso será um bom programador…
Boa sorte![/i]
Bom estudar… se atualizar e fazer cursos também.
E ver quais as tendências do mercado.
Rs.rs.rs.
O Senhor é um fanfarrão! :lol: :shock: